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Online Discussion for Thursday, November 5

Because few people seemed to have watched the video assigned for today, our class discussion fell flat, so we’re moving it online. Watch the video here, and read the story in the Lawn anthology.

In order to get credit for being present today, you need to do two things:

  1. Post a comment below that addresses both Adichie’s TED Talk and Ha Jin’s “Saboteur.” You can address them both together in one comment, or separately in two separate comments, but you must address both.
  2. Post a reply to at least two other classmates’ comments.

This needs to be done by our next class meeting on Tuesday. Note: if you were absent from class today, you can still get credit for being there if you participate in this online discussion. However, you will need to find a way to obtain a copy of the reading.

 

Below are some discussion questions, generated by the discussion groups, to get us started.

What’s the significance of Fenjin describing Mr. Chiu as an “ugly man”?

What kind of stereotypes in “Saboteur” do we think confirm Adichie’s theory of the “single story”? Would the Chinese agree? (<–this question is a good start, but I want to rephrase it slightly: how does “Saboteur” confirm or disrupt the notion of a “single story” of Ha Jin’s setting? That way we don’t accidentally start presumptuously speculating on the thoughts of a specific group of people in ways that are impossible to confirm.)

What was the significance of Chiu not missing or loving his wife?

Why does it matter that Chiu was a Communist Party member?

Why was Chiu so stressed about his honeymoon? Should he have been stress-free? (I will add an addendum to this question–what “single story” does the assumption that Chiu should feel a certain way on his honeymoon come from?)

What was Chiu’s goal in spreading his disease Why did he choose that route in possible revenge?

 

Note: when you leave a comment, be sure to sign it so I know who you are. First names only are fine (except for the Kevins–you guys should also add “McD” or “McG”). If you would prefer not to sign your comment with your actual name, shoot me an email and let me know what pseudonym you’re using instead.

Happy commenting.

 

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Recap of “Bartleby, the Scrivener”

Class-generated discussion questions for Herman Melville’s “Bartleby, the Scrivener”:

Why are people so easy on Bartleby? Narrator didn’t want to fire him and no one wants to make him do anything.

Was Bartleby’s refusal to work voluntary of involuntary? Was he trying to make a statement?

What is the significance of the “dead letter” office?

Did Bartleby’s previous job traumatize him so much had a PTSD-like experience at his new job?

What is Bartleby’s goal/plan–it seems like he’s waiting for something?

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Recap of “The Elephant Vanishes”

What was the relevance of the woman in “The Elephant Vanishes”–(Note: this is a GREAT question and we didn’t get to it in class!)

There’s a large contrast between the behavior of the 2 elephants. What does each represent?

What does the elephant represent to the narrator (in “The Elephant Vanishes”)?

Why did the narrator find a connection between the disappearance of the elephant and the complete change in his life? (Note, this is a good question, because it asks us to look at a pattern in the story, and is more specific than a general question about representation.)

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Recap of “The Handsomest Drowned Man in the World”

Note: This discussion was about asking good questions, more than getting to any particular answers. Below are the revised versions.

 

What does How can we interpret the division between what the man represents for the men of the village vs what does he represents for the women?

How does the dead man prompt positive or negative changes for the village? (after discussion: regarding its capacity for empathy? or does he?)

What is the significance of the name Esteban?

Note the parallels between children’s and women’s fantasties regarding the drowned man. Contrast these fantasies with those of the men.

Why is the village so inspired by Esteban?

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Discussion questions, “Girl”

What would the Girl’s mother think of the slut Connie is so bent on becoming? “this is how to bully…”; “Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been”

What would the mom say if the girl was a boy? “how you behave in the presence…” “Don’t squat playing marbles”

How old is the girl? “like the slut…” “Don’t squat to play marbles”

Why was there a sudden shift from chores to more serious matters? “this is how to make medicine…”

What does the changing tone reflect the relationship between the characters? (this is approximate; my image is blurry)

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“Lost in the Funhouse Recap”

  • Help I’m so confused
  • Liked the quote pg. 87
  • Noticed the unfamiliarization (teacher’s note: the term is defamiliarization–right idea, though!)

?  What?
?  What happened behind the tool shed?

x  Maze in Goblet of Fire and Bum Ham

  • Confused (narrator and us)
  • Settling ending, no wrap-up

?  Is Ambrose the narrator? If so, at what point in time?
?  Is the representation of Ambrose as some kind of genius outside of society accurate or is it wishful thinking?

x  Connection to breaking fourth wall of House of Cards

How did the stream of consciousness style/cut short sentences add or detract from the story?

What is the connection between the narrator and Ambrose, if any?

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Recap, “A Scandal in Bohemia”

Here are the quick notes we took as a class on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s “A Scandal in Bohemia”

 

Watson is the narrator: what sort of character is Watson? What does he add to the story? (Noted: mild sarcasm, Holmes’s audience, observation skills which differ from Holmes’s, etc.)

Holmes’s feelings for/about Irene Adler: is it just because she beat him that he’s so deeply affected by her? (Noted: the letter she wrote; she taunts him!)

Why did Sir Arthur Conan Doyle make Holmes a detective, instead of, say, a doctor (like House M.D., or a scientist as Watson muses)? (Noted: Winners/losers, public bragging rights, kitschy mystery genre)

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The Lady with a Dog Discussion recap

Transcribed from the class-generated discussion questions 9-15-15.

 

Why does Dmitri hate women, but find comfort with them?

 

What’s significant about the Pom, beret + lorgnette? They’re repeatedly mentioned.

 

Is Anna going to continue the cycle that Dmitri has been going through his whole life?

 

Why did Dmitri fall in love with Anna, and why now?

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“Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been” class notes

Below is a direct transcript of the notes on the board from our class discussion. Note: These are not exhaustive regarding what we discussed in class, and they do not include answers to the questions, which we talked about in class. These recaps are not a substitute for actually attending class and taking your own careful notes; they are merely here to help you organize your thinking about class discussions.

 

3 reactions
– There’s a divide between what’s real and what’s not real (the two Connies; it’s not always clear what’s really happening and what is merely her perception or dream)
– Felt a sense of shock at the climax (when Connie says it feels like Arnold is “stabbing” her with her breath–passage has emotional impact of literal stabbing but the stabbing is only how Connie feels; see “two Connies” in previous item)- Dreamlike ending, sort of fades like the music

2 questions
– What’s going on with the numbers in the story, and on the side of Arnold’s car–33, 19, 17?
– What is Ellie’s function in the story as a bystander character? June’s?

1 connection
– The story has a weird serial killer vibe like in Silence of the Lambs

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